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Ok these really don't "revolve" but I don't really know what else to call it.

I'd like to have an EDUCATED discussion about this. I'd like to here everyone's pro's and con's of running a setup like this. I know it's kinda "ghetto fab" but I'd like to discuss the concept rather than the parts being used. Yes it's a MJ shackle with a XJ shackle attached to it.





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its a cool concept, but you would have to make sure that they dont over extend so the shackles dont compress the opposite way.

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Looks like what M.O.R.E. used to call their "buggy" shackles. They were available for YJs. I only know of this because I considered buying them for my YJ back in 98.

Is the second pic at full drop? If it were to some how over extend would it push the spring forward? Causing a bind in the suspension. Other than that I have seen something like these used before.

-- Edited by threeEs99 at 21:54, 2008-12-21

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Unique, interesting. I would have to agree as long as they do not spin around to far it seems like a good idea. Allows for more flex and mobility as far as I can see in the pics. I also have to wonder how the ride is, whether it would feel loose in the back since there is nothing to pull the shackles back to each other after a bounce except for gravity which may allow for more bounce than anticipated??? Is there any way to incorporate a decently heavy duty sprin to keep tension so it could not over extend and so the ride would be more stable? Maybe as simple as two holes and a good stiff spring or a spring set in the middle of the shackles. They would still flex but pull back down.

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I don't have any experience with shackles and revolvers, but it looks like it'd increase wheel travel. If it works well, and quality hardware is used (for safety and durability obviously) run with it.

Remember, our Jeeps are built, not bought. Why buy something that you can make for 1/4 the price (I've heard of Quick Discos being $20 to make and a couple of hours time).

And, of course, some things just need to be bought, such as Autopal headlights, tires, and recovery equipment. That's where places like MOR come in.

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I was looking for the info on the MORE ones but do not think they are made anymore. However in looking for those I took a look at Teraflex revolvers and noticed a 1/4 thick, "tab" on the top of their lower part of the shackle. It seems it does the job of preventing the shackle form reversing itself. Simply by stoping it from rotating too far. This may be a cheap fix to that problem.

I do wonder how the ride would be as PC 92XJ brought up. Have you tryed them out yet?
Maybe a clock spring in place of the bushing between the two shackles would help as PC 92XJ sugested.

Are the pics of an MJ?

-- Edited by threeEs99 at 09:43, 2008-12-22

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Look's neat to me

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when the suspension fully compresses will the shacle make contact with leaf packs?

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i think theres a guy on NAXJA that did something similar to this. i cant find it though

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There is only one real pro to this set up and that is it will increase you RTI score. Other then that it basically is extra droop that is not controlled and doesn't do you any good on the trail. It can actually harm you in any side hill or steep decent because it will unload unexpectedly.

If you want more droop and to gain some usable travel look into getting the correct shackle angle. At ride height a 45 degree angle works very well and with an extended shackle will yield lots of travel.

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