just did this, picked up some fog lights from advance autoparts. Little more plastic than I would have liked, but for $25 probably not bad. Will look elsewhere for lights for a lightbar.

Anyways, bumper doesn't have to come off. Mine was already drilled for lights (on top) don't know if they all are). I basically wired the lights together, shoved it behind the grill, mounted the lights and then finished running the wires.

Just need a couple extensions (wobble extensions work better)to reach up under to bolt the lights down. Not as bad as i thought, I was expecting to have to pull the front skid.

BTW, there is a hole in the firewall where the hood pull cable goes through, that's what I used.

I really like those Hellas your're right on with the price to...prolly' order a set this weekend

Thanks for the tip

Joe

The Hellas are really nice, but I picked up a pair of 100 watt spotlights for ~$18 from the truckstop in Fort Wayne. I believe they're made as work lights on semi trucks....have a rubber housing, and mounted to the bumper in the stock location with just a little massaging. They are deeper than the Hellas are, and make for a tight fit on a stock bumper. Would be excellent on a lightbar.