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You know you can lift your Jeep fairly cheap and it will be fine if you do it as a temporary thing. I had a YJ and lifted it for 34$ until I had the cash for a regular lift kit. You can go to Auto Zone or the like and they usually sell pretty generic lift options. You can get spring spreaders for the front coils and 2" lift blocks for the back since you should be running a spring over axle already. I would not really reccomend using them to offroad but it can be a cheap solution to getting the tires you want now and until you save for the kit you want. I think the generic shackles are about 17$ and that would cover the rear, the block sets I think are 20$. Like I said make it temporary and you should be fine. I wheeled my YJ several times on the cheap stuff but you will really want a decent kit with shocks and coils and springs in the end and I am sure MotionOffroad can help you find one at a later time that will suit your needs, they can get things for people that you may not see on the web site.



-- Edited by PC_88XJ at 15:51, 2008-08-03

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Though PC88XJ is right, I do not recommend taking that approach. Most often, "lift" parts that are being described here are lower quality and not built for performance. I know that that was stated, but I wouldn't go that route at all.

First off, anyone on here that has ever wrenched on their Jeep will tell you that while it is very rewarding in the end the process can be grueling. Sometimes it makes you want to kill someone. So, I ask, why would you put yourself through that torture for a sub-par part that you will want to and I guarantee HAVE to change in the future?

Secondly, save your money! Just be patient. Wait until you have enough to get the lift that you want and need. Maybe you need to reevaluate what is a want vs. need, but wait.

If you do these things you can possibly/probably avoid putting parts on your Jeep that will break. This will save you headache in the long run.

To each their own. After all, it is your money and your Jeep. This is just my twocents.gif !

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This suggestion was only made as it seemed he was very interested in getting bigger tires and I thought it would save him from buying two sets. I guess another option might be instead of buying tires right now, get the lift first. For the cost of new tires you can get a nice lift kit and then take the time to save for bigger tires. That and you can usually always find someone selling a set of 31s on wheels for about $50 that you could pick up and resale for the same price as soon as you find the ones you want.

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Well, the wheel/tire setup I want is going to be almost $1100 exactly shipped. That's the 15x8 with 3.75" BS Cragar Street Locks and the 31x10.5x15 Maxxis Bighorns.

Alternatively, the lift I want is the 3.5" RE Superflex lift which runs $909 @ motion with free shipping.

I know that if I get the wheels/tires and the lift second that I can run the same wheel/tire setup with the lift and have it look at least halfway decent before I got 33's, whereas if I got the lift first and kept the stock setup I have now, it would look really weird because the tires would look tiny.

So if I was going to do it one way or another it would be wheels/tires first and lift second.

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Hmm.. cheap price on some 31" Maxxis Bighorns on eBay.

I'd imagine the guy sells em on there all the time if he has 4 sets of 4 available and in all different sizes...

Maybe I'll go through him when I get mine.. It's about $20/tire cheaper than Motion with shipping costs and everything.

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Just curious as to why you would go through someone on eBay as opposed to a supporting vendor on here? For $20 a tire?

You are probably correct as far as inventory. I am sure that your eBay seller has a huge warehouse somewhere full of tires, thus being able to sell at a lower price. But, where is the customer service? Did you contact the seller and ask for advice on tire size for your set up? What did he/she say?

I am not trying to cause problems... I am an eBay user myself. I just think it is good to support the vendors that support our club.

Again, this is just my opinion.

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Well, being that I make minimum wage, my mother just lost her job, which is in turn forcing her to sell her car, and the house will most likely go up for sale too...oh, and I'm going to college in the fall so I have to pay for that too, and without a job my mom can't buy me a laptop like she was supposed to so I'm going to have to buy one of those too....

Sorry, I'm just trying to cut costs where it's possible.

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Where ou going to got to school?  What major?

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Baker college in Muskegon for a 2 year degree in Cisco networking and then after that I might go to a bigger college or university or something for another 2 year degree because Baker's credits don't transfer.

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Yodwinder wrote:

Well, being that I make minimum wage, my mother just lost her job, which is in turn forcing her to sell her car, and the house will most likely go up for sale too...oh, and I'm going to college in the fall so I have to pay for that too, and without a job my mom can't buy me a laptop like she was supposed to so I'm going to have to buy one of those too....

Sorry, I'm just trying to cut costs where it's possible.


I know how that feels.  With money that tight, and my money is tight also being a fellow college kid (grcc), I settled on a 2" lift and will run the stock tires until they wear out, then I'll get 30s.  I found a guy who bought the lift and never installed it on his xj... he sold the Jeep and I got the kit for $90 at my doorstep a few days later.  It'll save you a lot of money, you'll get better mpg (important if your XJ is your daily driver), and you'll still be able to support some of the guys that help support this website.biggrin  A larger lift could also result in driveline vibrations, which means you'll need a tcase drop, or a SYE (the right way of doing it), and that increases expenses quite a bit, especially if you're doing it once, and doing it right.  In the end, I hope you have fun with your XJ.

 edit: I found this, the 'related pictures' are useful as well.



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I know how that feels. With money that tight, and my money is tight also being a fellow college kid (grcc), I settled on a 2" lift and will run the stock tires until they wear out, then I'll get 30s. I found a guy who bought the lift and never installed it on his xj... he sold the Jeep and I got the kit for $90 at my doorstep a few days later. It'll save you a lot of money, you'll get better mpg (important if your XJ is your daily driver), and you'll still be able to support some of the guys that help support this website.biggrin A larger lift could also result in driveline vibrations, which means you'll need a tcase drop, or a SYE (the right way of doing it), and that increases expenses quite a bit, especially if you're doing it once, and doing it right. In the end, I hope you have fun with your XJ.

edit: I found this, the 'related pictures' are useful as well.

 


I wish I could find a lift for that cheap but somehow I doubt it. It's likely I'll have to pay full price for one. So I guess I might try to trim like hell (which I didn't want to do) and stuff 31's under it after my stock tires wear out (which one of the rears already is).


And also, next summer I'll probably be getting a bike too. You mentioned you're going to grcc which I'm assuming is Grand Rapids community? If so we could wheel, and ride together as I'm only in Muskegon.

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1.5-2" Leaf Shackle - $60 (click me)
1.75" Coil Spacer - $38 (click me)
Total - $98

Sorry it's not $90 but close..

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3" Budget Lift - $175 (click me)

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LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW wrote:

1.5-2" Leaf Shackle - $60 (click me)
1.75" Coil Spacer - $38 (click me)
Total - $98

Sorry it's not $90 but close..

OR

3" Budget Lift - $175 (click me)



 If I did that I'd be leaning towards the first option just because I do not want an add a leaf at any time lol.


So on that note, how does the first option affect the on road handling / feel and how does it affect off road performance?

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I would think that the first option would help all around.  The Shackles help with the flex. If you get 3" leafs they are going to be stiffer, 4.5" would be even more stiff, and so on and so forth.

So I would go with the first one because it would allow you to keep the ride quality you have, but give you a little more height for off roading.

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Yodwinder wrote:
If I did that I'd be leaning towards the first option just because I do not want an add a leaf at any time lol.

So on that note, how does the first option affect the on road handling / feel and how does it affect off road performance?

 

Your not going to get "mad flex" out of a budget boost by any means. It will help clear tires so you don't have to trim though. You may get better ride quality out of the rear based on the simple fact you'll have a longer shackle back there. Everything else should remain the same that you have now since you'll be using the same coil springs and leaf packs.

 



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