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differential help

So I had my old changed 3 months ago and with that I had the front differential fluid changed.  Went back today to have oil change they check the differential, the front was black. I havent notice any noise or strange vibrations coming form it. I thinking about having it look at but I dont know anything about them. I was reading something on here about there about there being a issue with the Dana 30 but I want to know whats wrong with it but dont want to get ripped off at the shop. Should I have it look at or is there something that I can do to fix it. need help from guys who know jeeps.




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That aside, servicing the differential is pretty easy.  Place an oil change pan under front differential.  Remove the bolts leaving a couple loose but still intact (usually just one at the top loosened about halfway works.  That prevents all the oil from gushing all over the place.

Take a rubber hammer (available at any hardware store) and give it a few taps and it should come loose and the fluid will of course drain. Scrape the gasket material off the inside of the cover and the diff housing mating surfaces.

Once that's done, some folks take a can of brake cleaner and spray off the gears and internals if there's gunk built up.  Make sure the chemicals drain and are dry before replacing diff cover.

Some guys use gasket maker, I just used the gasket from Napa (which sold me a dana gasket, so you know it'll fit since they made the axle), and with a little finessing got it back together and all of the bolts snug- not super tight.

Then I removed the fill plug (it's rubber so just use a flat screwdriver to remove) and fill with quality gear oil until it's level with the hole.  Reinstall plug.

That's how I serviced the Dana 35 in the back of my Jeep.

And the bad name the dana 30 front and dana 35 rear axles get is from the guys that run bigger tires and more power and put a lot more stress on the axles.  They are adequate for normal use and some trails and about 33" tires max, so they're not overly strong, but if you just use your jeep as a daily driver, they will hold up for the life of the vehiclesmile.

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Just don't use a fram filter.  Baldwin, Hastings, Wix (napa), or Purolator are good.


-- Edited by ChevelleSSLS6 at 00:24, 2009-02-23

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cs86 I just serviced my diff about a month back and took pics and have been meaning to do a write up on it.  Just been to lazy.  I will post this write up for you some time tomorrow. 

I think that a couple of things could have happend in this case:
1. The did service the diff and something might be wrong.
2. They didn't sevice the diff the last time, and are getting you to do it this time because it is needed.
3. They did service the diff the last time, and are giving you a line of BS to service it again.


If it is actually how they told you it is, AND they have done everything they claim to have done, I don't know what would be causing it.  I don't know much about them except how to service them properly.


 


I would say switch the oil out yourself, wait a month or two and check it again yourself.  You get to learn something by doing it yourself, you save some money, and you know for sure what was done and that it was done correctly.   I will post the topic tomorrow before 7:30 PM, you have motivated me.



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I went and bought the roll of gasket material myself cut out the gasket, drained out the fluid replaced with mobil that was 45,000 ago , I saved myself $35 dollars, and $72 for labor ,I have stock 8.25 rear, Dana 30 front, I am running 33x9.5x15 on stock rims, the diff fluid breaks down after 50,000 miles. Offroading rigs (30,000 miles)I was wondering if this was true, Adam?

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I offer no real help here EXCEPT...

Don't buy gasket maker! Buy one of THESE !!! It is cheaper and less messy in the long run- ESPECIALLY if you are going to be taking it apart often to check it.

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I forgot to mention most quickie lubes (I worked at a dealer in 'the oil pit' and they do this!!!) is they suction the old fluid out, and refill.

This sounds good and fast at first until you consider that there's quite a bit of residue left up in the gears and whatnot, and the suction line likely isn't at the very bottom of the diff. So, it's like paying full price and getting 3/4 of an oil change.

This could be why it's dark already.

-- Edited by ChevelleSSLS6 at 11:16, 2009-02-23

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Did you actually see them open your diff up and change the fluid? How do you know it's "black" now? Really the only way to see if it's black is to open it up (aka take off the cover) to drain the fluid. If you've done that than you HAVE to put new fluid in it anyways. Something just does not make sense to me.

It's easy to change the fluid. Especially if you get the Lubelocker gasket that Dogwonk linked above.

1) Undo drain plug.



2) Remove bolts holding cover on. Leave the top 1 or 2 bolts still attached though (loosen them).



3) Whack cover with rubber mallet to loosen it.



4) Pry loose with screwdriver or straight edge object.



5) Allow fluid to drain.



6) Spray with brake cleaner to clean the inside.




If your do any wheeling, nows a good time to put a new heavy duty diff cover on.



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Question I have...is a LubeLocker gasket reusable?

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Question I have...is a LubeLocker gasket reusable?


According to the manufacture, "NO". Upon a conversation with them they tell us to inform our customers it's a 1-use thing. However the only reason they do this is so they don't get complaints "IF" it does leak the 2nd or 3rd time.

We've used them several times without issues of them leaking. So take it for what it's worth...

 



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now I got the goods on all this lube and gasket , I will be making my order soon! thanks for the tech help

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